Saturday, November 14, 2009

The Italian school system


During the past year many changes have been made to the Italian school: the reintroduction of one main teacher, the mandatory use of a uniform, the grading of the students’ behavior, just to say a few.

However, besides these recent changes that have taken place because of a new law (Riforma Gelmini), many are the differences that I’ve noticed after the first days of school. Obviously my notes are made by comparing the American system to the Italian one, and most precisely to the specific schools my kids are (and were) attending.

Books - Books are provided by the government, the only expense for the student’s family is for the class supplies (paper, pens, erasers, uniform, etc.) . I spent about Euros 100 (~$150) for both kids.
Notebooks - Kids have a notebook for each subject.
Hours - Kids can either go to school from 8am to 1pm, including Saturday, or from 8am to 4pm, excluding Saturday.
Recess - Kids attending school from 8am to 1 pm have only one 20 minute recess (around 10am). They stay in class. Most schools don’t have a playground.
Volunteers - Parents are not allowed to volunteer in class, unless they are holding a certain level of expertise in a field or topic that the students are learning. In this case they can teach in class for a few hours.
Diary - Kids have a diary to keep track of the homework they need to do.
Fundraising Auctions - Auctions are not held in public schools.
Communication - Families and teachers communicate through the student’s diary. Emails are currently not used.
Office - In my kids’ school, the school office is open only one hour in the morning, and one hour in some afternoons.
Physical Education (P.E.) - Kids need to have specific clothes (white t-shirt and black shorts) and shoes for P.E. They keep them in a bag that remains at school (until washing is required…).
Principal - Some schools share the same principal. In our case, we share the principal with four other schools.
Religion - Catholic religion is taught in all public schools. Kids have the right to refuse the attendance, in which case they are moved to another class for alternative activities. The crucifix is present in all classes.
Classrooms - Besides the desks and chairs, my kids’ classrooms have a blackboard with chalks, and a metal armoire for supplies. If it wasn't for the 2009 calendar on the wall, it looks exactly the same as when I was there 30 years ago.

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12 Comments:

Anonymous camilla said...

very interesting observations! glad to see this blog updated again. hoping for some of those lovely podcasts from silvia

/una Svedese a Londra

2:58 AM  
Blogger Mediazione said...

Cara Silvia,

Complimenti per questo bellissimo blog! E in bocca al lupo per la vostra avventura Italiana. Sono arrivata al tuo blog attraverso una ricerca su google. Sono un'insegnante di Italiano a Washington, DC trasferitasi negli Stati Uniti da Napoli poco più di due anni fa.
Beh, volevo solo dirti che se mi autorizzi, vorrei usare l'articolo che hai appena scritto sulle scuole italiane con i miei studenti americani. Insegno Italiano 1 e 2 in una scuola media e nella classe di Italiano 1 stiamo proprio vedendo la scuola.
Grazie mille! E ancora auguri per la vostra avventura!
Chiara

6:00 AM  
Blogger Nate said...

Thank you for beginning to write again, I do enjoy your posts. Quite the contrast to the US system of education.

7:37 AM  
Blogger Paolo and Francesca Tosolini said...

Chiara, grazie del commento. Usa pure qualunque materiale di questo sito ti possa servire per le tue lezioni, audio, video, scritto, etc. Non farti problemi e auguri per la vostra classe.

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Carolina said...

Ciao Tosolini!
Ecco perche non vi abbiamo sentiti da molto tempo - state in Italia! Molto interessante le tue osservazioni aggiornati delle scuole. Mi interesserebbe sapere le tue OPINIONI del contrasto dei due sistemi. Quale preferite? Veramente l'aula del tuo figlio sembra squallida. Quale orario avete scelto voi? Come vanno i tuoi figli nel nuovo sistema? Hanno difficolta'? Capiscono tutto? Siamo curiosi.
Rccontacelo!
Grazie,
Carolina

6:55 AM  
Blogger Michellanea said...

This is incredibly interesting as my Italian husband and I are set to leave Milan in 2010 and "try" life in my country - the U.S. I've been here in Milan for ten years. We have a two-year-old son and one of the many reasons I want to leave is the education system. There are some differences between Trieste and Milan - for one, the kids don't wear uniforms here in the public schools. At scuola materna they wear the grembiule, but at elementary school, no uniform. Here parents have to buy books each year - the schools do not supply them. As the books are supposedly "updated" each year (many people think it's a racket and a way for the publishing companies to make money), you can't pass them down to younger brothers and sisters. Where we live the elementary school looks really sad - not a very exciting or creative place to learn. The school doesn't even have a photocopier and parents have to take turns making photocopies for the class! And parents also have to supply many other things including toilet paper, which isn't put in the bathrooms but given to the teacher. A kid who needs toilet paper has to ask the teacher who asks (in front of the other students) how many squares of toilet paper he/she needs. But these are not even the main problems for me. I think that while Italian schools may prepare children well intellectually (my husband, an engineer, is a product of this system), they don't prepare students for the real world. The focus is on rote learning, memorization and not on problem solving and creative thinking. In any case, thanks again for this post, and I really appreciate your observations!

1:26 PM  
Blogger Emily said...

Interesting observations! You state that there are "alternative activities" for students who do not wish to participate in Catholic education? Do you know what these activities are? Are they comparable, like learning about all world religions, or are they just something to occupy the time of the children?

3:48 PM  
Blogger ia said...

Books are provided by the government?
da quando?

11:31 PM  
Blogger Rossella said...

Assomiglia proprio anche alle mie classi, sia alle elementari che alle medie. Come e' andata l'esperienza? quali sono stati i pro e i contro di aver mandato i vostri bimbi a scuola in Italia? suppongo forse lo rifareste in futuro, se si, per un periodo piu' lungo forse? Cosa ne pensi dei metodi ancora un po' 'arcaici' che usano, tipo niente email, classi spoglie, niente parco giochi pochi intervalli? Quante domande! Sono curiosa! Se mi puoi rispondere ti ringrazio!

10:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Abito negli USA dall'eta` di 15 anni e, avendo avuto l'opportunita` di fare la scuola pubblica sia in Italia che negli USA (ultimi due anni di high school e poi l'universita`), devo dire che la scuola italiana e` altamente piu` rigorosa accademicamente di quella USA. A me non importa avere una 'bella' aula. A me importa avere un'insegnante dotato che insegna un curriculum intellettuale e rigoroso, invece del sistema USA dove si prendono le materie come dal buffet del pranzo.

Sicuramente c'e` molta memorizzazione, ma almeno gli studenti italiani, cosi come me e altri italiani che vengono a studiare per un anno o due all'universita` negli USA, sono piu` a conoscenza di storia, geografia, cultura, filosofia, letteratura e tanti altri campi, invece della conoscenza specialistica di tanti studenti USA che sanno solo quello che fanno nei loro corsi, scelti da loro, ma di poco altro.

Ovvero, la scuola USA manca di interdisciplinarieta` e ne soffre.

10:38 AM  
Blogger Paolo and Francesca Tosolini said...

I'd like to thank and answer to the many people who posted a comment related to our blog about the Italian school system:

CAROLINA: I totally agree with the last comment of "Anonymous". I think that it doesn't matter how the school physically looks as long as it gives you the right education. And I also prefer the Italian one for the reasons Anonymous listed: it gives you a broader cultural spectrum. And curiously enough, my daughter said that she prefers the Italian school because teachers are more cheerful and they use the blackboard with chalks...
My kids adjusted extremely well to the new school, with no relevant problems (actually, with no problems at all), both socially and as far as the language (but we do speak Italian at home).

EMILY: during the religion hours the kids that don't attend are moved to another class where they either draw, make their homework, etc. Basically another teacher "babysits them" while doing her/his class.

IA: Books are provided by the government in Trieste. Based on Michellanea's comment, I understand that this varies from city to city within Italy.

ROSSELLA: Yes, I would do this experience again, but for the entire school year (we are back to Seattle right now, so the kids went to school in Italy from Sep to Dec). Honestly, the only con is that the kids have to leave their home in the States for a long time, otherwise I see only pros.
The thing that bothered me the most was the lack of communication between school and parents. It's like they want the parents to "stay away" from their classes. I offered to volunteer several times, but was never allowed.
The kids weren't bothered by the lack of outdoor recess time. Of course, I would have preferred them to go outside, but it was something I could live with. They went to school each day until 1pm, so, eventually they had the whole afternoon to enjoy the outdoor. Not a big deal.

Thanks again to all our readers!

11:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice article. But about books, you say that they are provided by the governmen. Where? You have to buy your books!
Nice blog.

4:10 AM  

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